Viet Nam Mod

[KillerKind]

As most of you know, I've been working on replacing all stock weapons with weapons of Vietnam. Well, here is my official post for the mod. Anyone who wants to contribute, please post in this thread. We have a few talented modelers here who are either actively producing new models or have voiced their support for the mod. We should see their work here soon. I also have a couple jungle type maps in the works for this mod and Balr has given his permission to use his textures, many thanks Balr! The mod is also in need of talented skinners for player skins! Oldmfunk has said he would do some, but I think he may be too busy with other projects. Sgt. Kia has some nice US skins that we may be able to use. We really need a couple VC player skins before we can release a beta.

Here's a list of weapons which is open to changes, so if you have input please post.

Vietnam weapons that are either finished or are in development. SKS Rifle (VC) RPG 7 Rocket (VC) RPD MG (VC) M-60 MG (US) M-70 LAW (US) M-79 Grenade Launcher (US) M-26 A1 Fragmentation Grenade (US) M-18 Smoke GrenadeVietnam weapons that need to be developed. AK47 MG (VC) PPSH SMG (VC) Tokarov T33 Pistol (VC) Mosin Nagent Sniper Rifle (VC) Grenade (VC) M-16 (US) Sniper Rifle - not sure which would be best (US) M-2 Carbine (US) M-14 Rifle (US) Thompson or Grease Gun (US) M-1911A1 Pistol (US)Again, if you want to contribute to the Vietnam mod, please feel free to post. I will be posting some screenshots and videos of my models and maps in this thread soon.

Killer`

[KillerBudz]

w00t! Tester here. :waves:

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

Grease Gun (US)

I've started work on the grease gun :bigrin: If someone would like to model some new US players I could skin them. I have tons of reference picks too.

[KillerKind]

w00t! Tester here. :waves:

Roger that buddy! Should have something to test in a week or so...your server?

Dave - Nice, grease gun will be sweet!

[mohaa_rox]

i made an m16, and have my old grease gun that was never skinned, and i and itamar made a mosin nagant before.

[Shtrafbat]

i could make some skins player skins...and if you model gear too that would be great..;)

[Sgt.gunny]

THANKS killer u got the M2 carbine and M14 in there w0000t!!!!

[KillerKind]

mohaa_rox - I don't remember what your M16 looks like, but I'm sure it rox! :winkers: Post some pics if you have any, and let me know how to get the models.

TWE-Ryan - I was hoping you would want to help! You're a very talented skinner, no doubt about it! I can model some gear if you let me know what is needed. Dave can also do some gear modeling.

Sgt.gunny - Yep, the M2 would be sweet, as would the M14! I'm thinking the M14 should be the US sniper rifle?

[Aequitas]

Oy, ill contribute with some sounds if needed. :zzohyah:

[Sgt.gunny]

ok lets get talking about the sniper rifle. hey thanks for u putting in the m2 and i could make some suggestions.

see i read a book a great book called "Dead Center" it was about a marine sniper what they used was the winchester 70 with scope. at the end of his tour he got a remington 700 with didnt have the range as the 70 did.

The winchester 70 has been called the best hunting rifle ever made(i think). heres some pics
http://www.shootersoasis.com/images/250imp.GIFwinchester 70
http://www.thegunshop.com/images/Long%20Gun%20Images/Remington%20700%20ADL-270.jpgremington 700

[SniperMatt]

The M-14 and the M1 Garand were sniper rifles used during Nam. They were both accurate and reliable. The M1 though, to be more realistic, would be a short range sniper, while, the M-14 would be a medium range sniper. I remember seeing it on a website, but I can't remember the site. lol. Hope it helps.

SniperMatt

[Sgt.gunny]

ok im getting over board with this thing:bigrin:

please dont put in the m14 as the sniper m14 was used in basic training and was used by snipers that would use the m14 as there assalut rifle cause the m-16 would jam alot. and u do know that in vietnam they had an M-16 sniper with silencer.

And the M4A1 carbine was used more in the green bettets more then the m-16 cause the rifle hardly jammed.
http://double.uhome.net/gun/gun640/fgun/m4a1_carbine.jpg
http://www.counter-strike.net/images/weapons/m4.jpg

[Sgt.gunny]

and the winchester 70 could beat both of them.

[SniperMatt]

Well, excuse me. Im sorry to say, that the M-14 was the preferred choice. Dude. I know. The M-14 was a good rifle. The M1-D Garand was a good rifle. The Winchester or whatever wasn't used. You never hear of it.

SniperMatt

[SniperMatt]

Oh yeah, and, the m4a1 is less powerfull. The m16, so what if it jammed, i mean, come on this is a damn game, not a real war, is more powerfull. And they had hella more of them than the m4a1.

SniperMatt

[Sgt.gunny]

well u need to go read "Dead Center" more people had bolt action snipers in vietnam. the winchester 70 was getting replaced near tet in 1968 so was the m14 by the m16 in 1966 for the rouges. washington waned to replace the m-14 cause the thoght the m-16 was better but in the end the AR-10 would kick both there butts. but was not used very much in vietnam. the AR-10 was even before the ar-15 the M-16 was based off of the AR-10. the AR-10 could replace most of the weapons in vietnam.

[SniperMatt]

Ok I found the site. Here are the weapons used in the Vietnam War.

U.S. Weapons Of Vietnam
1)M-16
2)CAR-15
3)M-72
4)M-79
5).38 Special
6)M2
7)M-1919A4
8)M-20
9)M-67
10)M-1
11)M-60
12)M-203
13)M-14
14)M-1911A1

Viet Cong Weapons
1)AK-47
2)MAT49
3)Type 24
4)Makarov
5)SIMONOV
6)PPSh 41
7)RPG-7
8)RPD-7
9)Chicom
10)Torekav

Visit http://www.173rdairborne.com/weapons.htm for more info on the guns.

SniperMatt

[Shtrafbat]

they didn't use m4a1 in vietnam it was car 15 there was no m4a1 then

[SniperMatt]

Thanks Ryan :)

SniperMatt

[Sgt.gunny]

oops my mistake but there ALMOST the same thing car-15 in vietnam had 20 rounds to a clip.

[Sgt.gunny]

well matt do u see any sniper rifles in that list.

[SniperMatt]

M-16A1, 5.56mm Assault Riflehttp://www.173rdairborne.com/images/M_16.gifThis is the weapon most commonly associated with US troops in Vietnam. Despite early problems with the weapon it has now become a respected assault weapon. The 5.56mm M16A1 is a gas operated magazine-fed rifle capable of semi-automatic and automatic fire with an effective range of 300 meters and a practical rate of fire of 60 rpm. CAR-15, 5.56mm Assault Riflehttp://www.173rdairborne.com/images/COLTCOMMANDO1.gifThe XM-177E2, commonly known as the Colt Commando. This is a shortened version of the M-16 with a telescoping stock. The CAR-15 was very popular with special ops troops but saw only limited use with line units.


Thats the differences.

SniperMatt

[SniperMatt]

And yeah, killer, I would be glad to help with your mod thing.

PM me.

SniperMatt

[Sgt.gunny]

no what i ment was about the car-15 and the m4a1 not the m-16 and car-15.

[Lucifer]

I changed my mind about this KillerKind. Even though I have alot of stuff to do because of school I'm going to take a crack at some VC skins when I get the time :winkers:

[KillerKind]

Personally, I want to do an M-14 sniper, because I like how it looks and functions. Sgt.gunny is right about the Winchester 70 though, I believe there were snipers who preferred to use it for it's accuracy and reliability.

Also, Brendan is working on a mod to allow more weapons in the menu. So we may be able to do more than just replace the stock weapon selection. Even if that does not work out, we can always spawn other weapons in the maps.

Thanks SniperMatt, we need all the help we can get from the community!

[KillerKind]

I changed my mind about this KillerKind. Even though I have alot of stuff to do because of school I'm going to take a crack at some VC skins when I get the time :winkers:

w00t! Good to hear! Maybe make sure TWE-Ryan is not doing the same skin, just so we are productive. :bigrin:

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

USM3 Grease Gun. Current Poly Count 1527. Still a little bit of tweeking to do but its basicly finished.

http://ta-force.com/upload/files/greaser.jpg

[Sgt.gunny]

good this mod is sounding better and better every day.

[brendank310]

i can make it so you can pick alot of weapons from a menu, but it would be easily h4x0r3d. lol. we could prevent this from happening with some scripts, but in the end hackers would find a way to exploit it. i dont see why everyone doesnt like the idea of spawning weapons in maps. im thinking about it for aoi. could do a thing where you drop your weapon, and go up to a few signs(with trigger_uses) that check to see if you have a primary weapon, and if not, give you the weapon that you selected from the trigger(the sign would tell you what they were). i know hacks are everywhere, but i dont think it would be cool for people toting about 60 guns around to use as they choose. we could do it though. some security measures could be taken.

[Sgt.gunny]

i like the idea of spawning weapons in maps like if u have a qqb of a village of a sniper map:bigrin:

[SniperMatt]

Your welcome killer :)

And, yes, the M-14 and the M1 are both used as regular rifles and sniper rifles during the vietnam war gunny. All you had to do is fit it with scope mounts and a scope, and BAM, you havea sniper rifle. They used anything they could during that war. (anything, and almost anyone) lol.

And, yeah, gunny is right when I think about it. Since it is bolt action, and when a semi auto loads the bullet in the chamber, it sometimes isnt aligned straight, so it fires at an odd angle. The bolt action performs better as far as accuracy goes. Sorry gunny. :( I learned this from my father, lol. About the semi and bolt thing. And, he served during the vietnam war, so, lol, lucky him, not really.

SniperMatt

[Sgt.gunny]

well i guess what ever killer wants to model is his choice.:zzohyah:

[MainFrame]

this mod seems to be very intresting : P the more help the better i suppose .... hey gunny erase some of your pm's lol i cant send u nuffin...
BOT - killer can try one of the guns no one is working on ?

[Sgt.gunny]

ok ill tell u when.

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

FYI I'm making a PPSH SMG.....

[Sgt.gunny]

ok pm me if u want deverm.

[Tuff Marine]

Hey guys,

I'm Tuff Marine, and I already lead a Vietnam mod, called Vietnam: Jungle Warfare. You can check us out at http://www.planetmedalofhonor.com/junglewarfare . Most of the stuff is on our forums, but we're getting a new website soon :-)

Anyways, we've got a bunch of stuff done already, and I thought that perhaps we could collaberate our ideas and make an even better mod!

But if you don't want to do that, that's fine. If you're up for it... that'll be great! My email is tuffmarine@planetmedalofhonor.com , just give me a message!

[-{MAC-V-SOG}-LionHeart]

for the player skins you should put the military assistance command vietnam studies and observations group. hence my clan name -{MAC-V-SOG}-

[KillerKind]

deverm - Sure, you can work on a weapon if you want. Just post some renders when you have something to show. :)

Tuff Marine - I really appreciate the offer, but I think I want to keep this project here at TMT, exclusively. These are my people! :zzohyah: Feel free to check back with us at a later date though.

[KillerBudz]

There has been huge support for this mod. I vote to add a small forum dedicated to this.

This has great potential.

(40 posts and 350 views in a bit over 24 hours)

[KillerKind]

We're off to a good start. We'll see how it goes. :winkers: Let me know when you can set up a server for testing Budz. I have a few weapons and a new jungle map to test with you.

Damn this 56k! I was going to post some in game screens of my weapons and map, but it's too slow. I'll try again later...:(

[busta_cap]

well i have to say tuff marine, those models arent the best ive seen , especialy the m16, which was a m4 or CAR 15 stock and reviever and a m16 front end, yeah ok then anyone else notice that one, anyways im looking for a team whos interested or already doing a modern combat sort of mod, if uve played Black Hawk Down, thats wat i wanna see happening as a total conversion, and i can skin ( if its a tga mapped out already) model, and do some scrpiting so anyone who needs me:)

[brendank310]

busta_cap, there are alot, and i mean alot of modern mods going on. another one would be nothing new. just to tell you from the start.

[nsscorpion]

I was wondering if you had anyone doing custom menus like weapon selection etc or loading screens??
If not give me a rough idea what u would like.

[Aequitas]

Hrm...
I didnt get any answer, so ill jus go ahead and ask again:
Do you want me to help ya out with sounds?

[KillerKind]

nsscorpion - I don't think anyone is working on those areas yet. I haven't given the idea much thought yet, but by all means, feel free to experiment. Would be sick if we had a custom interface! :bigrin:

Aequitus - Consider yourself in charge of sound mate! :winkers:

[KillerKind]

A few images I posted in the Pimping thread....

http://64.87.126.132/Killers-Server/50cal/50cal-render-01.jpg

http://www.modtheater.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=153

http://www.modtheater.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=170

http://www.modtheater.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=155

http://www.modtheater.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=233

http://www.modtheater.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=416

A silly little video...

VA-01.wmv (http://www.mysqlsoftware.net/VA-01.wmv)

VC reference pics posted by Dave...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000051YHN.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/enemy/enemy-vietnam2.jpg

http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/enemy/enemy-vietnam1.jpg

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

My models :bigrin: (they aren't skinned yet those are just crummy photo skins, I'll skin them good later on :p )

http://ta-force.com/upload/files/vietnammodeld.jpg
http://ta-force.com/upload/files/vietnammodelc.jpg

[Lucifer]

I cant seem to find any good refrence pics on VC's anywhere.
I've done searches on every possible search engine on the net. But all I end up with is crummy scetches.

[KillerKind]

Have you searched http://images.google.com?

A few more pics...

[Lucifer]

Yes I've tried just about anything and I always end up with tons of screens from Vietcong (the game), Pixelated black and white photos or crummy sketches. This is doing my head in. :tardbang:

[Aequitas]

I cant seem to find any good refrence pics on VC's anywhere.
I've done searches on every possible search engine on the net. But all I end up with is crummy scetches.

Found some:

http://www.strw.leidenuniv.nl/~tubbs/images/photos/asia/vietcong.jpg

This one is NVA, but anyways:

http://www.angryskipper.org/nva2.jpg

NVA aswell:

http://www.angryskipper.org/nva7.jpg

A couple of NVA uniforms:

http://www.simonov.net/images/battle/nva-vc.jpg

You might find something here aswell:

http://pvtpyle.com/asian_uniforms.htm

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

I'll share mine :bigrin: Sorry its so many files, I can't upload more than 2 mb at a time. If you want to know what a specific thing is pm me and I'll tell you.

http://ta-force.com/upload/files/Screens.zip
http://ta-force.com/upload/files/Screens2.zip
http://ta-force.com/upload/files/Screens3.zip

[KillerKind]

Excellent research! That tank is freakin cool! :waaaa:

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

Thats a PT-76. Would be nice to have that ingame. I can attempt it if you'd like. From what I here tanks make maps really laggy. But I'll see what I can do if you want it :bigrin:

[KillerKind]

Give it go if you want Dave! We can collaborate, you start it. :winkers:

Just checked out Kia's jungle Marine skins. Way cool!

[moh2002]

heres a pistol for the vc mod.

[KillerKind]

Very nice moh2002! We need to have the slide and clip as separate parts for the firing and reload anims.

[Tuff Marine]

Killerkind - That's fine, I completely understand! Good luck to your mod!

[moh2002]

ok ill have to remodel some of the faces then.

[KillerKind]

Killerkind - That's fine, I completely understand! Good luck to your mod!

Same to yours, keep in touch. :)

[moh2002]

Same to yours, keep in touch. :)
anyone up to skinning this bad boy when i finish remodelling the faces
?

[Sgt KIA]

Just checked out Kia's jungle Marine skins. Way cool!
Thanks! Id love to contribute even more, but unfortunately i made other commitments. :winkers:

[mohaa_rox]

my contribution, almost skinned m16, but u can redo the skin.:zzohyah:

[Sgt.gunny]

well im glad we can make almost anything here :D we all release most of it we are better then any forum ive seen. hey killer u ask for any weapon pics just ask ;)

[KillerBudz]

Let me know when you can set up a server for testing Budz. I have a few weapons and a new jungle map to test with you.
Should be finished building by the end of the week. Just waiting on the hard drive.

[KillerKind]

mohaa_rox - Can't wait to get that M-16 in game!

Just got the PT 76 from Dave. Looks nice, check it out...

[mohaa_rox]

have an old grease gun

needs a new skin, if u wanna skin it, ask me.

[KillerKind]

Thanks rox, I've got one here that Dave made. I think I will go with his at this point, as I've already started to work on getting it in game. But, I really want to check out your M-16!

Here's a couple renders of Dave's Grease Gun...

[SniperMatt]

Whats the point of having a grease gun in this? lol. maybe i am lost. idk.

SniperMatt

[SniperMatt]

Yo mohaa_rox, what program are you using for that m16?

SniperMatt

[KillerKind]

Whats the point of having a grease gun in this? lol. maybe i am lost. idk.

SniperMatt

Army of the Republic of Vietnam (the South Vietnamese Regular Army, or "Arvin" in slang) used the M3A3 grease gun.

[SniperMatt]

Oh, they are so ghetto. lol.

SniperMatt

Oh, btw killer, I got a few guns in the making.

[KillerKind]

LOL...what was Cowboy's line in FMJ - "Trade you some arvin rifles, never been fired and only dropped once." - or something like that. :lol:

Post some pics when you have something on those weapon models SniperMatt.

Here's a couple player gear models (bandana and canteen) I just received from Dave. Can't wait to get these in game! :bigrin:

[SniperMatt]

Here is one, a m-16. It may already have been done, but oh well. I feel like posting it. lol.

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

PPSH-43 Current Polys 1170
http://9thfiles.com/up/files/PPS-43.jpg

[KillerKind]

More jungle map progress, thanks to GD for the prefab! Also started on putting the 50 cal in game. Yeah, I know it needs a new skin.

Here's a few pics...

[mohaa_rox]

wow Dave seems enthu

killer can i map something?

[mohaa_rox]

killer is it ok if i make a Remington Model 870 shotgun?

[mohaa_rox]

Remington Model 870 shotgun:

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

AK47 MG

I'll start an AK47 sometime today :bigrin:

[KillerKind]

killer can i map something?

Yes, we need mappers!

I've already got a Remingtin 870 in game, but I'll take a look at yours.

[KillerKind]

While everyone is interested in CoD (scorpio's new forum - the guy's insane!)...

I've been working on creating custom, animated models for the mod. If anyone here is interested in mapping let me know and I will send you the model and texure pk3's.

[mohaa_rox]

killer do you have msn? i would like to map something. got a crazy idea.

[KillerKind]

killer do you have msn? i would like to map something. got a crazy idea.

I do, but I don't use it much. I guess we could set a time to chat?

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

I have msn and ICQ just click the little buddy or the flower to add me :bigrin:

[mohaa_rox]

I do, but I don't use it much. I guess we could set a time to chat?

now?:bigrin:

[KillerKind]

I'm having problems logging in. :mad:

[Balr14]

While everyone is interested in CoD (scorpio's new forum - the guy's insane!)...

I've been working on creating custom, animated models for the mod. If anyone here is interested in mapping let me know and I will send you the model and texure pk3's.
Vary the angle and scale of the texture on those rocks. They all have identical black stripes.

[KillerKind]

Planning on it, just didn't want to explain. I've been focusing on creating animated foliage models. The map is far from finished.

[mohaa_rox]

killer do u have anything to communicate?

[Mustard_man]

just to let yah no I'm still here i just went away for 7 days :zzohyah: it was fun I'll still help with the whole avatar hud (not a main menu to hard :shake: ) but i can do avatars n hud i already have a axis avatar :zzohyah:

[brendank310]

i could help with main menu. it aint that hard :-D

[Mustard_man]

not hard just take long time but if you wanna help i'm up for it :zzohyah:

[SniperMatt]

Damn killer. I think you scored here with the moh modding community. It seems everyone is enthused with this mod. It seems like it is doing great, and it is only not even a week into the start of it. wow.

SniperMatt

[MainFrame]

Damn killer. I think you scored here with the moh modding community. It seems everyone is enthused with this mod. It seems like it is doing great, and it is only not even a week into the start of it. wow.

SniperMatt
hmmmm maybe cus mohaa is on its death bed ..... the real headz left giving it a few last breaths till that final moment of silence lol :attack::mgun: mohaa fo life or until i get a better computer .... hopefully breakthrough and mohaa 2 changes this modding situation

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

yeah breakthrough is slated for release in sept. That will probaly bring back interest in the game......... unless its another spearhead :zpalease:

[KillerKind]

Keep this in mind guys, just about everything we do here on this mod can be converted to Cod or HL2, if we choose. So all the work we do here is not going to die with MOH.

I have nothing against everyone running to the CoD forum, I just see no reason to mod a sp demo. When the full version is released, if we see that a TC is possible, then I'm sure we will move the mod. Until then, why not be productive with what we have? And that is what we are doing my friends. :winkers:

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

well put Killer :zzohyah:. I was thinking about the idea of animals what would be best? I was looking at the King Cobra but because of the way a snake moves it was pretty high in the poly range.

[KillerKind]

King Cobra would be so cool! I think a low poly version would work, just need to make a few links within the body, so we can animate the mesh.

How about some pigs, like those in Platoon?

[mohaa_rox]

killer do u have a website???

[KillerKind]

No website for the mod. Do you think we should have one? I'll try to get you on msn.

[Sgt.gunny]

hey i was looking at the weapons list and i was stunded by not seeing a ak-47 are we gonna have 1 or will it be the sks or the rpd?

[KillerKind]

Dave's working on an AK47 now. We will probably have both, AK47 and RPD7.

[Sgt.gunny]

good cause for a min i was like omg. how many skins do we have? of VC.

[mohaa_rox]

msn: mohaa_rox@hotmail.com


u think a uh-1 huey would be cool? we can send in reinforcements with that, or make an SP campaign!!!

[scorpio Midget]

Keep this in mind guys, just about everything we do here on this mod can be converted to Cod or HL2, if we choose. So all the work we do here is not going to die with MOH.

I have nothing against everyone running to the CoD forum, I just see no reason to mod a sp demo. When the full version is released, if we see that a TC is possible, then I'm sure we will move the mod. Until then, why not be productive with what we have? And that is what we are doing my friends. :winkers:


I just see no reason to mod a sp demo.

Personnaly i disagree on this point.

I know what mohaa can and can't do, and theres a lot it can't do that's been annoying me for ages !

With CoD being released as a SP demo, it gives me an ideal opportunity to spend some quality time seeing how modable it really is ... and so far i'm very impressed.

The scripting language is much more powerful than mohaa's. Several sites already mention IW will be giving modders a sdk, which is fantastic news.

Like you say a lot of the work your still doing in Mohaa can be moved over to HL2 or CoD. But it helps if a few people know the basics of how to mod those engines.

So thumbs up to IW for releasing the SP demo, i feel sure this one game that will be a modders dream :)

[mohaa_rox]

i agree with scorpio, if EA (like IW) will give a chance to modders by releasing source code, mohaa won't die so fast. i mean, with the source code, you can do many great things and make great mods. DoD and CS are great mods of hl cause there's mod support. not for mohaa. i think CoD will have mod support too.
but anyway, i wont leave mohaa soon, there's breakthru. hope it wont be another SH.

[scorpio Midget]

i agree with scorpio, if EA (like IW) will give a chance to modders by releasing source code, mohaa won't die so fast. i mean, with the source code, you can do many great things and make great mods. DoD and CS are great mods of hl cause there's mod support. not for mohaa. i think CoD will have mod support too.
but anyway, i wont leave mohaa soon, there's breakthru. hope it wont be another SH.

Yep i'm hoping too that BreakThrough will be a great expansion.

Certainly the last time i spoke to TKO they said it had many improvements ... time will tell.

BT is on my buy list :)

[KillerKind]

I just see no reason to mod a sp demo.

Personnaly i disagree on this point.

I know what mohaa can and can't do, and theres a lot it can't do that's been annoying me for ages !

With CoD being released as a SP demo, it gives me an ideal opportunity to spend some quality time seeing how modable it really is ... and so far i'm very impressed.

The scripting language is much more powerful than mohaa's. Several sites already mention IW will be giving modders a sdk, which is fantastic news.

Like you say a lot of the work your still doing in Mohaa can be moved over to HL2 or CoD. But it helps if a few people know the basics of how to mod those engines.

So thumbs up to IW for releasing the SP demo, i feel sure this one game that will be a modders dream :)

Of course, I was not referring to you and your excellent scripting skills Scorpio. I'm all for you getting your hands in there! I was trying to hint at Lucifer, TWE-Ryan and Oldmfunk. These are the player skinners that have voiced their support for this mod. Unfortunately they are more interested in the CoD demo.

[scorpio Midget]

Of course, I was not referring to you and your excellent scripting skills Scorpio. I'm all for you getting your hands in there! I was trying to hint at Lucifer, TWE-Ryan and Oldmfunk. These are the player skinners that have voiced their support for this mod. Unfortunately they are more interested in the CoD demo.

That's a shame :(, coz this Mod does look very good.

[mohaa_rox]

That's a shame :(, coz this Mod does look very good.

i sense a cold war starting.......

[Lucifer]

Dont worry KK I'm still working on skins here in my gloomy cave where my computer is situated. I'm still looking for more material though. But I'm doing what I can with what I have. School work also gets in the way often. And you shouldnt worry about the people moving over to CoD just yet. It's just that people are very exited at the moment but since it's just a demo the interest in modding it will soon fade.

[Balr14]

Call me crazy, but I'd like some idea of what kind of sales a game is going to have before I spend a great deal of time learning how to mod it. There is nothing to indicate CoD is going to be a big seller. Has anyone checked sales figures for the VietNam MoV game? Pretty weak. How does CoD differ? Not much.

Remember, the online mod community has no impact on a games success or failure. I can recall a number of games that were well received by the modding community that flopped.

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

exactly Balr. Thats why I feel its a little to early to jump to a game that hasn't been released yet. It doesn't matter how well its received by the modding community if theres 100 people playing online at any given time than its not really worth it.

[brendank310]

men of valor came out? holy crap that must have had crap sales.

[Balr14]

men of valor came out? holy crap that must have had crap sales.

I thought it did. If it hasn't, that would account for lousy sales stats. Doesn't matter I guess. All the FPS games we've seen in the last two years have been realistic teamplay oriented war themes, usually WW2. I think the general game buying public is getting tired of it.

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

I'd really like to see a Korean or Serbian themed game released. There are two many WWII themed war games. Even a WWI themed game would be nice.

[Lucifer]

Just made a little sig for all the people who are working on this mod. What do you think? feel free to edit it as you please:bigrin:
http://www.b-coy.com/vietnam_sig.jpg

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

I think it looks great. Maybe make it a bit shorter and about a cm longer. Besides that I think it looks sweet!

[Lucifer]

DOH! I deleted the photoshop file. All I've got left now is the Jpg. Ah well. You'll have to stick with it 'till I can be arsed to make a new one then :tardbang:

[KillerKind]

Hey thanks Lucifer...I like it! :bigrin:

[KillerKind]

Still working on animated models for the mod. Here's a small video of a new fern model, so you can see the animation. The model has only 8 faces.

http://64.87.126.132/VNM-Fern-01.wmv

Also, maybe we should give this mod an official name? I had this in mind - Viet Nam: Ambush - but I would like some suggestions.

[MainFrame]

wow them plants look to real as hell killer lol good do holms ....
names uhhhh

viet nam-gorillas in the mist
operation viet nam
viet nam operation delta force

lol :waaaa:

been doing mad research ... search is the key word lol
this site has some good shyts on vietnam vietcong weapons ... man they used alot of home made pistols and smg's wow them dudes would fight to death wit sporks and plastic spoons :zzohyah: http://www.cantho-rvn.org/weapons.html


hope it helps

[KillerKind]

More custom models for the mod, if anyone is still interested. A new fern type and some rocks, using Balr's custom textures.

Also downloaded the CoD demo (the new MOH...lol!) using 56k last night, took 10 hours! :wierdshai I gotta say, I like it! Sure hope the SDK will support new models.

[KillerKind]

Talking to myself here...another animated foliage model, a broadleaf! :look:

[Mustard_man]

i added some stuff to mine

[Lucifer]

Nice one. Good to see someone putting a "personal touch" on it :)
Foliage looks great KK :zzohyah:

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

Made a new face and hands

http://9thfiles.com/up/files/face.jpg

[Lucifer]

Oh my lord that's amazing!! :uhoh:

[KillerKind]

Nice guys. Got a couple more animated models done, another broadleaf and a bush. Oh, and mp prone. :winkers:

[Mustard_man]

:bigrin: when will we be testing some stuff out i'm sure we could prolly use the stud server :zzohyah:

[KillerBudz]

Nice guys. Got a couple more animated models done, another broadleaf and a bush. Oh, and mp prone. :winkers:
Last I remember you had a ti4200 for a vid card. Looks like you're getting around 80fps with all that foliage. How the hell are you keeping the frame hits down. The reason I ask is becaues in one of the HitP maps, theres the jungle in the middle... all the foliage in that killed your frames. My 9800 was dropped to 30fps.

Pic look great... ( Now just get back on broadband. http://www.issatis.net/smilies/03.gif )

[KillerKind]

Mustard_man - I'm not sure. I'll need to finish up this map first, maybe I'll make it smaller so we can get a test in quicker. I'd like to have more work done on the mod if we use the Stud server, as that would require a public release. As soon as I get broadband we can do a private test on my server. KillerBudz may be able to set one up as well.

KB - I think you're referring to GD's map. He used LOD terrain for that map, and it was an alpha test. I use triangle brushes for my terrain, which performs much better, but you don't get that smooth surface you get with LOD.

[mohaa_rox]

nice killer! u managed to get prone working??? can i test?

[scorpio Midget]

Nice guys. Got a couple more animated models done, another broadleaf and a bush. Oh, and mp prone. :winkers:

This mod is looking really good, any idea when you'll release it ?

[KillerKind]

mohaa_rox - Yep, I made the prone mod for HitP. It works well enough to use for the mod. We'll test it as soon as we get a map ready.

Scorpio - Thanks! I don't want to set a date yet, we would probably be way off target. I've lots of work to complete, and we still need at least one VC player skin before we can release a beta. :)

[Mustard_man]

I have Avatars done and i am now working on the HUD :zzohyah:

[KillerKind]

I have Avatars done and i am now working on the HUD :zzohyah:

Thanks buddy, can you pm me a link to download the avatars? Can't wait to see the HUD! :winkers:

[Mustard_man]

okydoky :zzohyah: i'm working on the HUD need some ideas i tried looking at the vietcong HUD but i don't want to rip it off :shake:

this is kind of what i was think for the Compass not complete or anything it will be way different but i was think maybe a camo theme:

[Mustard_man]

oh and i want to do a xhair next, think it should be like a bright red one so it stands out? i have one right now but all i did was turn the MoH:AA one red so i want to make a different one :zzohyah:

[KillerKind]

Many thanks Mustard_man! Keep up the good work. :winkers:

I've a few more natural models to show. You may be getting bored looking at these, but they are an important part of this TC.

[Sgt.gunny]

looking good im lacking behind in whats going on so if you need some info on vietnam guns ask me ;)

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

This isn't finished yet but I felt like posting. Still need to make doors, add more to the interior, align everything up, add a bit more to the exterior.

http://9thfiles.com/up/files/hueyrend.jpg

[Assassin 47]

With the exception of the thing on the nose, thats mighty impressive Dave. What's the polycount?

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

Poly count is pretty high at 3265. This drops to 2549 without the miniguns. As for the 40 mm cannon its one of the things that still needs work.

[KillerKind]

:eek: Wicked Dave, very nice!

[JFrank(GD)]

hmmm...its looking like it might be time for the Viet Nam Mod to have its own forum section :beers:

[Mustard_man]

:bigrin:

[KillerKind]

w00t! We gonna have some fun now! http://www.modtheater.com/forum/images/smilies/beer1.gif

[KillerBudz]

http://www.modtheater.com/forum/images/smilies/beerbang.gif You got your forum KillerKind. w00t!

[Balr14]

You may want to keep the palm trees to a minimum. VietNam doesn't have a lot of palms.

[mohaa_rox]

they have banana plants

[Mustard_man]

:eek:

[mohaa_rox]

:eek:what's so :eek: about this?

[Mustard_man]

i donno i just felt like posting :look:

[nsscorpion]

ok i am still workin on the interface guys nothing concrete yet will post soon as have half decent stuff

regards scorp

edit
the guy in the picture is Rick Rescorla (above) who died 9/11 WTC Tower 2
Credited with saving thousands of lives i thought he was the kinda guy who you would want.

[Lucifer]

That looks like a 5 minute jobby too me. But keep it up. :winkers:

[nsscorpion]

it is a 5 min jobby the problem is finding royalty free images to use.
also i need some in game shots etc to complete the crap lol

[[CSF]BulletHole]

wow guys! everything looks great! cant wait for the release so i can try it out.

[KillerKind]

Thanks buddy...stay tuned! :)

[Commando]

ok edit
the guy in the picture is Rick Rescorla (above) who died 9/11 WTC Tower 2
Credited with saving thousands of lives i thought he was the kinda guy who you would want.

yep, Lt.Rescorla later known as Col.Rescorla also helped save some members of Charlie Company 1st Batt, 7th Cav. he put his life on the line to help save men in thier foxholes who were about to be over run. also am looking very forward of this mod, looks nice and u guys are paying tribute to those men who fought and died for thier buddies. Good Work and keep it up

[tank_y2k]

First may i join second i got a realy good idea for a site but i cant realy explain it beacuse thats just me i find it hard to explain stuff even how to bind a good damn key in mohaa i find hard to explain but any way
u wanna take my offer up killer and i could make a flash website as well one in html or ph sumat like that then one in flash.

The flash ones could be like pixle pushers one for hitp

[Flipsen]

Whoa, what an icredible amount of activity have i seen on this mod these dayshttp://www.modtheater.com/forum/images/smilies/shy.gif

DID THIS DIE? (btw im still waiting on killerkinds respond on my question if i could be added to the "private" forum, maybe that's it?http://www.modtheater.com/forum/images/smilies/suspect.gif)

[Balr14]

It hasn't died. Things are a bit slow... not just here, but all over the online gaming communities. It's that time of the year.

[Flipsen]

Things are a bit slow... not just here, but all over the online gaming communities. It's that time of the year.http://www.modtheater.com/forum/images/smilies/sigh.gifhttp://www.modtheater.com/forum/images/smilies/sigh.gifhttp://www.modtheater.com/forum/images/smilies/sigh.gif AARGH

[Lucifer]

What are you actually complaining about man?

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

Things are a bit slow...
I've been busy working on a skin over the past couple of days
It uses an altered model (I gave it short sleeves and long pants).

Here it is pictured with a couple hats and one is wearing a chicken plate that will be used on a pilot skin (still modeling the flight helmet).

http://www.9thsf.com/up/files/images/renderskin.jpg
http://www.9thsf.com/up/files/images/driverrend.jpg

[MainFrame]

nice stuff dave http://www.modtheater.com/forum/images/smilies/beerbang.gif..... just curious did u make the models also ???? gj hope to see more soon : P

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

just curious did u make the models also ????
I made the ball cap and chicken plate. I think Sgt.KIA made the helmet. As for the player Sgt.KIA made the head, the rest of the body is an EA model I altered.

[-=3vil=-]

Hey, Ive been reading about this MOD... gunna be sweet I hope it makes it out to us!

Nice skins Dave :)

[Sgt.gunny]

well we need a leader as far as i know. cause killerkind has not been seen for a long time now :(

[hobnob2904]

Hmm i just had an idea for a skin, FOREST GUMP!! and bubba, and lt. Dan.
they'd all be great

[KillerKind]

I'm back in the game. We are going to regroup over the next few days and see if we can get an alpha together for everyone to enjoy. :beers: Sorry for the delay guys!

[Flipsen]

I'm back in the game. We are going to regroup over the next few days and see if we can get an alpha together for everyone to enjoy. :beers: Sorry for the delay guys!:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

Guess who's back.... back again.....killerkind's back

great new truly

[DON]

Finally some action hahaha

[tank_y2k]

killer would i be able to join the mod i got some grate ideas i sent u a mail with the ideas in take a look

[KillerBudz]

I'm back in the game. We are going to regroup over the next few days and see if we can get an alpha together for everyone to enjoy. :beers: Sorry for the delay guys!Sweet! Get ahold of me on MSN please.

[Sgt.gunny]

w00t we have been waiting for this day for over month now. im glad to see ya killer. bad news is that GD is doing bad right now. but atleast hes getting better :waves:

[Cedric]

has anyone made a colt skin yet? if not i may try one.

[Sgt.gunny]

go right ahead will probibly use it :bigrin:

[Cedric]

I don't know if this mod is still gonna happen or not, but I've got an M1911 Colt skin. I can't upload pics here, but they're on my website http://www.geocities.com/cedricsmods/skins.html the first 2 pics are of the Vietnam Colt. Let me know what you think.

[Sgt.gunny]

that is a very very nice skin dude im sure killer will let it be in the mod :)

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

It looks great well done :beerbang: .

[Cedric]

Thanks. I'm glad you like it. It only took about 20 min (I'd made the handle previously). I want it to be fairly simple because most soldiers wouldn't have a fancy pistol. If you have any suggestions, I'll be glad to hear them.

[Maxx130]

I know it's not the best pic but, heres me and my favorite toy...an M-79 granade launcher:bigrin: http://hitp.modtheater.com/Image/000_0018.JPG

[Cedric]

nifty! are you in the military?

[Maxx130]

I was. I spent time in Honduras, Panama (during the invasion), And was in the 1st gulf war, after that my time was up. I was an armorer in the Security police/law enforcement field.

[Cedric]

I just want to get a feel for who is still working on this mod. I know KillerKind and Mohaa_Rox are. Anyone else? I can do some skinning if there is stuff already mapped out.

[[CY]Ospery97]

Hey- if you guyz are doing SH Scripted Vehicles I'll do em for ya :) so long as some1 else makes the models and skins em i can do the Vehicle Scripts- those old ones of Scorpio Midgets dont work shit for SH unfornately...

Or if u want I can script in stuff for a singleplayer mission or two...

Basically i'm a scripter and i wanna script for u peeps :)

SO if u need a scripter i just wanna say... PIK ME!!!

And is this for AA or SH? AA-right?
Either way i wanna script :)
but i get to do more work if its Sh (cuz sh is a pile of shitty ass bugz and it makes up non-existent script errors...jk)

[Sgt.gunny]

sure you can help us we already have some models.

[[CY]Ospery97]

sounds very kul man

just tell me wat u want done....k?

and i am part of the new mod now? :bigrin:

mayb since its vietnam i could figure out how to do some helicopter stuff- like u enter a mission via a copter... that kinda stuff:)

or is this purely MP?

[[CY]Ospery97]

helicopter ride- if we had a model of one would be real easy....

helicopter flight... hm... sounds interesting

[DON]

Ospery97']helicopter ride- if we had a model of one would be real easy....

helicopter flight... hm... sounds interesting

Modern Warfare has a flyable 1!!

[[CY]Ospery97]

Modern Warfare has a flyable 1!!
Dude- thats wat i meant - we could have some that fly u in and then a mission where like the ppl rescueing fly in a copter- but the pilots are killed and theres just a copter sitting there- so u have to fly out :) or something like that - i dunno

[[CY]Ospery97]

Dude- thats wat i meant - we could have some that fly u in and then a mission where like the ppl rescueing fly in a copter- but the pilots are killed and theres just a copter sitting there- so u have to fly out or something like that - i dunno

either way its gonna be kul :D
:beers:

[[CY]Ospery97]

Dude- thats wat i meant - we could have some that fly u in and then a mission where like the ppl rescueing fly in a copter- but the pilots are killed and theres just a copter sitting there- so u have to fly out or something like that - i dunno

[[CY]Ospery97]

sorry for the triple post.... crap... :bonk:

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

How did you post once then post the same post plus the :beers: guys then the original post again? Did you edit the second post?

edit: 2 of those post are not like the others.... two of those posts just don't belong....

[[CY]Ospery97]

i posted and the first one didnt show up

2nd time i posted i didnt see anything still

3rd time i posted a new one i saw all 3 and thot.... Boy - these peeps are gonna think im a complete dumbass

I think i must of forget to hit the page 14 button :bonk:

Yeah... im a dumbass :releif:

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

Ospery97']im a dumbass :releif:
This happens to everyone at one time or another.

[DON]

This happens to everyone at one time or another.


lol

[Sudano]

is there a version of the mod out yet? and is there a website. sorry i dodnt want to read all 6 pages

[Sudano]

o yea, how is the fps with those plants? any better? any worse? my comp sucks so i need to know. thanks :uuuuuaaa:

[{*CCCP*}Dave]

No there hasn't been a public release yet. We will have a web site soon.

I have an ATI Raedon 7500, a Pentium III processor and 451 mhz and have no lag at all when playing the maps.

[Mustard_man]

Yay I have a 7500 also :bigrin:

[DON]

No there hasn't been a public release yet. We will have a web site soon.

I have an ATI Raedon 7500, a Pentium III processor and 451 mhz and have no lag at all when playing the maps.


Lol, i have a 1.6ghz
512 ram
nvidia geforce 2 64 vram

only my graphics card sucks, and i wanna play this soon :)

[KillerKind]

We are making good progress and are looking forward to our first public beta release. I expect the initial release will have just a few select maps. However, we feel you will be quite surprised by the overall quality of the beta release. The weapons alone are quite exciting, not to mention a new CTF game play mode which will be a lot of fun in these jungle settings.

We are working hard to build maps that perform as well as possible, yet retain a rich jungle environment. I would say your graphics card is a bit on the low end though, so you may experience some performance issues. As long as you understand that your graphics card "sucks", then you will have no reason to flame us. :bigrin:

[Sudano]

yea...your suucks, mine is like 32 or somehting. one the stock maps my fps is around 18-30. saving up for a new computer.

[Sudano]

if i do get a new computer, id be glad to map for this mod. if you let me i will focus only on this, but ill let you know when i do get the computer, need about 200-400 more dollars.i am kinda new to mapping, but i think i am pretty good its just my computer that slows me down. or evern a vidio card. how mutch does a good vidio card go for and were can you get them? i still want a new comp more than a video card. one more thing, you know the comercials of the dells PC? are they good for only about 400-500$? maybe ill get one of those.i dont need anything out of this world just an average PC.

[Sgt.gunny]

u wanna do a team beta test soon killer?

[mohaa_rox]

u wanna do a team beta test soon killer?
we already had one

[Balr14]

if i do get a new computer, id be glad to map for this mod. if you let me i will focus only on this, but ill let you know when i do get the computer, need about 200-400 more dollars.i am kinda new to mapping, but i think i am pretty good its just my computer that slows me down. or evern a vidio card. how mutch does a good vidio card go for and were can you get them? i still want a new comp more than a video card. one more thing, you know the comercials of the dells PC? are they good for only about 400-500$? maybe ill get one of those.i dont need anything out of this world just an average PC.

Go here. Definitely the best deals. I have two from there and my brother has one. http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/. Their base prices are misleading, you will need $150 - $200 in upgrades (sound card, speakers, OS, memory and video card). But, you get a damn nice PC still at very excellent prices.

Dell's low-end systems are all Celerons. You don't want one of those for gaming.

[Sudano]

thanks balr14 ill look into it more

[Sgt.gunny]

we already had one crap man i didnt know we had one :(

[mohaa_rox]

crap man i didnt know we had one :(
yea we members had a little test

[Sudano]

Hey balr14, I was looking in a Dell magazine and a saw a Computer the was around $899. The computer part seemed Pretey good, but the video card was either 32mb or 64mb. So i will try and save up some monmey to get the PC and then a video card that i saw for that computer, either 128mb or 256mb, I think those were the correct numbers, anyway the 256mb Vidio card was only $120! I thought Vidio cards were 3x as mutch, and if I cant get the PC, I'll just get the vidio card for my current PC. O yea.....i wonder if the card for my PC model will be more money??? o well. Now I'll have to look into the cards for my PC model.

[Sudano]

Hey, how is the mod coming? havent heard any news for a while?
I also would like to know if there is a site. thanks

EDIT:: Hello?? Is it deserted or something??

EDIT:: So mutch for this mod.

[+||NXT||+[Sycho][CP]]

I can't skin, map, or anything for my life; but I will test just let me know what you want me to test and I'll do it. I've got the time and I'm willing. I hope this turns out good, it all sounds really good so far.

[Sudano]

It's dead though, check the dates. I have a mod though, check it out in my sig.